Windows 10, version 1709 coming soon


As we previously announced, Windows 10, version 1709 (also known as the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update) will be available worldwide on October 17th, 2017. For IT organizations, that means that Windows 10, version 1709 will be available on the 17th on all relevant distribution channels: the Volume Licensing Service Center (VLSC), Windows Update for Business, Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), and Visual Studio Subscriptions. The updated Windows ADK for Windows 10 will also be available by that date.

You might notice that there have been some packaging changes with volume licensing media and upgrade packages with Windows 10, version 1709. Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

For ISOs that you download from the VLSC or Visual Studio Subscriptions, you will still be able to search for the individual Windows editions. Just note that each of the editions (Windows 10 Pro, Windows 10 Enterprise, Windows 10 Education) will point to the exact same ISO, so you only need to download the ISO once. Included in the ISO will be a single Windows image (WIM) file that contains all the volume licensing images:

Image Name

Index

Windows 10 Education

1

Windows 10 Education N

2

Windows 10 Enterprise

3

Windows 10 Enterprise N

4

Windows 10 Pro

5

Windows 10 Pro N

6

When using the contents of these ISOs with tools such as the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit or System Center Configuration Manager, make sure you select the appropriate image index in any task sequences that you create or update.

For packages published to Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), you’ll also notice the change because, instead of having separate packages for each Windows edition, there will be just one package:

Title

Classification

Description

Feature update to Windows 10, version 1709, <language>

Upgrades

Package to upgrade Windows 10 Pro (VL), Windows 10 Enterprise, or Windows 10 Education to version 1709

Windows 7 and 8.1 upgrade to Windows 10, version 1709, <language>

Upgrades

Package to upgrade Windows 7 Professional (VL), Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8.1 Professional (VL), or Windows 8.1 Enterprise to Windows 10 1709

When you approve one of these packages, it applies to all of the editions.

This Semi-Annual Channel release of Windows 10 continues the Windows as a service methodology.  For more information about implementing Windows as a service in your organization to stay up to date with Windows, please see our guidance at https://aka.ms/waas.

 


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Comments (35)

  1. Mike Haas says:

    Will this update be available for use with the Microsoft Windows Media Creation Tool as well on 10/17?

    1. Yes, the Media Creation Tool and the Upgrade Assistant will be able to download Windows 10 1709 on 10/17 as well.

  2. Noah W says:

    Do you know if this update has eliminated the issue where it was bringing back any winapps that were removed via the powershell commands of remove-appxpackage and remove-appxprovisionedpackage? It was supposed to be the case for 1703 but wasn’t.

    1. As we announced with the release of Windows 10 1703, this is fixed in two stages: When upgrading to Windows 10 1703, apps that the user had removed (or Remove-AppxPackage) will not come back. When upgrading from Windows 10 1703 to Windows 10 1709, apps that the IT admin had de-provisioned (Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage) will not come back.

      1. Noah W says:

        yeah that wasn’t working as intended. all apps were coming back no matter what.
        hopefully this one will resolve this issue as this is is a huge road block for my enterprise.

  3. AC says:

    So it’s going to be one package for all editions, all languages? (If so, awesome. All the en-us, en-gb, N, and K editions were cluttering WSUS until we declined them)

    Also, any word on when the ADMX group policy templates and the 1709 ADK will release?

    1. There will still be one package for each language. And yes, selecting “English” in WSUS gets you all the editions you mentioned, but you should now see only two packages.

      ADMX templates should also be available for download on 10/17.

      1. Eddie Leonard says:

        Michael,
        Having trouble finding a link for the admx templates. Do you happened to have the link handy?

        1. Use the link https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=56121. (For some reason the en-us link isn’t working right now, the team is investigating. But the en-gb link works fine.)

          1. Jordan Rakoske says:

            That link does not work either…

  4. Dael Sutton says:

    Will there be an LTSB variant of this release of Windows 10?

    1. No, the next LTSB/LTSC release is not expected until 2019.

  5. Carl Meilleur says:

    When will the ADK be available?

  6. NeighborGeek says:

    What I’m seeing in VLSC does not quite match what is described here. I no longer have Windows 10 Enterprise listed. The only Win10 Enterprise options I have are for the 3 variations of LTSB.
    In case anyone else finds Windows 10 Enterprise suddenly missing from their VLSC, look for a new entry called “Windows 10 Professional/Windows 10 Pro for Workstations”. There is a v1709 iso available for download from that category, and based on the file name it does appear to be the multi edition media described in this article. Hopefully they will get it fixed so that Windows 10 Enterprise is back in VLSC soon, but in the meantime since they are all the same ISO now it should work fine to download using the Pro link.

    1. I just checked this and it appeared as expected. I searched for and selected “Windows 10 Enterprise,” clicked the “Download” link then the continue button, and saw three items available for download. The third one is labeled “Windows 10, Version 1709 (Updated Sept ’17) 64 Bit English,” which is what is expected.

      1. NeighborGeek says:

        Interesting. I’m not sure why it would be different, but when I search for “Windows 10”, the Windows 10 Enterprise option is no longer there. Here’s what I get: https://i.imgur.com/kjAzQYE.png
        I’ll double check with our licensing person, but I’m reasonably sure that our SA hasn’t lapsed on all of our Windows client licenses…

      2. Nick Lane says:

        I’m on the https://my.visualstudio.com MSDN download section. I’m logged in with my MCT credentials and I’m only seeing 1703 when I do searches.

        1. Windows 10, version 1709 is now available for Visual Studio Subscriptions.

      3. Ivan Steffenino says:

        If I download from “Windows 10, Version 1709 (Updated Sept ’17) 64 Bit Italian” I get the ‘N’ edition “SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_Ent_Edu_N_10_1709_64BIT_Italian_MLF_X21-50163.iso”.

        1. You actually get all six SKUs, as indicated in the article: Windows 10 Enterprise, Windows 10 Education, Windows 10 Pro (VL), and the N variants of those three.

  7. minds says:

    Hi
    On wsus I see two entries for each language of “Feature update to Windows 10, version 1709, “. These looks identical on all details, however in file information I see that .esd files are stored in different locations and have different sizes, but are named the same.
    Also different computers requests different upgrades. Any reason for this confusion ?

    1. If you look at the file details, you can see that one of them is a retail/OEM package (clientconsumer) and the other is a VL package (clientbusiness). We are investigating to see if these can be differentiated.

  8. Steve says:

    How do you set the index value in MDT?

    1. When you import the OS files into MDT, it will end up creating six different OS entries; each of those has a different index. So by selecting the one you want, MDT automatically selects the index for you.

  9. Malvina Nisman says:

    When will Upgrade Analytics data become available for 1709?

    1. Windows Analytics Upgrade Readiness added Windows 10 1709 today, so you can now pick that as the target OS to be used for compatibility information.

      1. Malvina Nisman says:

        Great, thanks!

  10. Lasha says:

    On Wsus i saw and approved this update yesterday, but it not downloaded yet, is there any sorting method which countries receive it first?

    1. Once you approve it, it starts downloading immediately in the background. That download might take a few hours to complete, due to the size of the packages. (There’s no limiting or restrictions on our side.)

  11. AJ says:

    Where can I get an eval version of W10 RS3? Will it be made available on Technet?

    1. You can get that from the Windows 10 Eval Center, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise. The eval bits have been updated to Windows 10 1709 too.

  12. AJ says:

    I downloaded and tested the:
    “Windows 10 (multi-edition), Version 1709 (Updated Sept 2017)” ISO image from Visual Studio Subscription (former MSDN).
    I confirmed Windows 10 v1709 Enterprise ed. is not included.

    This multi-edition media includes the following editions:
    Windows 10 S
    Windows 10 S N
    Windows 10 Home
    Windows 10 Home N
    Windows 10 Pro
    Windows 10 Pro N
    Windows 10 Pro for Workstations
    Windows 10 Pro for Workstations N
    Windows 10 Core Single Language
    Windows 10 Education
    Windows 10 Education N

    Are you planning to post it?

    1. You grabbed the wrong ISO, look for the one named “Windows 10 (multi-edition) Version 1709 VL”. The “VL” one has Pro VL, Enterprise and Education, the non-VL one has all the consumer editions (the list you posted).

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