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Robocopy /MIR switch – mirroring file permissions

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FileCAB-Team
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Apr 10, 2019
First published on TECHNET on Jul 31, 2008
Some customers pointed out what they believe to be a bug in Robocopy.

The situation is: suppose that you copy your files using Robocopy in Windows Server 2003 or XP. Then, file or folder permissions (ACLs) are changed wither on source or destination. You want to use the /MIR switch to mirror the permissions:

> ROBOCOPY source destination /MIR  /SEC

Robocopy fails to mirror file permissions – but works for folder permissions.

This behaviour is by design. Robocopy focuses on copying just files that have changed (in size or modified date, by default). If a file looks like it has changed, Robocopy copies its data and, if you specified copying security as well, copies NTFS ACL from source to target after copying the data. If a file looks like it has NOT changed, Robocopy by default skips it, and copies nothing for the file, not even its security info.

When I wrote the “security copy” part of Robocopy on 22 May 1997, I chose to do this for performance reasons, to keep Robocopy times for large trees down. This was an adequate implementation for most peoples’ needs at the time. Also, another reason I chose to do things the way I did, is that setting security on directories is sufficient for most people. Setting security on a file-by-file basis is a more granular approach, for sure, but incurs a larger maintenance overhead, perhaps too much for many users.

Therefore, the solution listed as a workaround posted by Martin Zugec (MVP) is precisely what needs to be done in this situation, and this behaviour is expected:

> ROBOCOPY /Mir <Source> <Target>
> ROBOCOPY /E /Copy:S /IS /IT <Source> <Target>


The first Robocopy command above will copy data and security for files that have been updated, and the second Robocopy command will refresh file security for all files, without copying any file data.

If using a Resource Kit version of Robocopy, and wanting to keep security synced between two trees where the data is fairly static, but security is updated now and then. In fact, the “Copying NTFS Security Information” section of Robocopy.doc (from the Resource Kits) states:

“To refresh security information for existing destination files and directories without copying file data, use the /IS switch together with the /COPY switch without the D flag. For example /IS /COPY:SOU would refresh all security information for all selected files, without copying any file data.”

Things have moved on a bit in the past 11 years, security-wise, so I changed the way things work in this area slightly for the version of Robocopy that ended up in Vista, in that if you specify /SECFIX on the command line, Robocopy will copy security for skipped files that exist in both the source and the target trees.

So, to maintain two trees in sync, including their security, using Vista’s Robocopy, you can use the following as your regular Robocopy command:

> ROBOCOPY <source> <target> /MIR /SEC /SECFIX

/MIR will replicate data and security (as /SEC is specified) for changed files, and /SECFIX will update just the security for unchanged files. Add /V to the command line if you want to see which files are having their security “fixed” without having their data copied.

Kevin Allen

Updated Apr 10, 2019
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5 Comments

  • RussellProfitt if this is a non physical machine, I would recommend the following. dismount the volume in VMware / Hyper-V VM. mount it to the new server (core, yes your file server should use server core for various reasons, one is to prevent local acess and permission errors when opening folders due UAC is not supported in Windows Explorer locally).

    If it is physical I can recommend to use Gurusquad GSCopy Enterprise, at a low cost is about 40% faster than robocopy same robust, better logging and EVERYTHING you might need.

  • RussellProfitt's avatar
    RussellProfitt
    Copper Contributor

    I am moving all files from the current file server (2012) to a new file server (2019).

     

    I need to not only move the files but also the permissions for files and folders along with the copy.

     

    I have used Robocopy before but not in the manner where I need to move permissions.

     

    Can someone help me with the script necessary to do such? 

     

    Thanks

  • txthachyahoocom's avatar
    txthachyahoocom
    Copper Contributor

    Hello

    /MIR

    What other switches can be added to the /MIR so ONLY updated or new files will be copied to the destination without remove old files/directories from the destination?

     

    Thanks

     

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\n Some customers pointed out what they believe to be a bug in Robocopy.\n
\n
\n The situation is: suppose that you copy your files using Robocopy in Windows Server 2003 or XP. Then, file or folder permissions (ACLs) are changed wither on source or destination. You want to use the /MIR switch to mirror the permissions:\n
\n
\n \n > ROBOCOPY source destination /MIR  /SEC\n \n
\n
\n Robocopy fails to mirror file permissions – but works for folder permissions.\n
\n
\n This behaviour is by design. Robocopy focuses on copying just files that have changed (in size or modified date, by default). If a file looks like it has changed, Robocopy copies its data and, if you specified copying security as well, copies NTFS ACL from source to target after copying the data. If a file looks like it has NOT changed, Robocopy by default skips it, and copies nothing for the file, not even its security info.\n
\n
\n When I wrote the “security copy” part of Robocopy on 22 May 1997, I chose to do this for performance reasons, to keep Robocopy times for large trees down. This was an adequate implementation for most peoples’ needs at the time. Also, another reason I chose to do things the way I did, is that setting security on directories is sufficient for most people. Setting security on a file-by-file basis is a more granular approach, for sure, but incurs a larger maintenance overhead, perhaps too much for many users.\n
\n
\n Therefore, the solution listed as a workaround posted by\n \n Martin Zugec (MVP)\n \n is precisely what needs to be done in this situation, and this behaviour is expected:\n
\n
\n \n > ROBOCOPY /Mir <Source> <Target>\n
\n > ROBOCOPY /E /Copy:S /IS /IT <Source> <Target>\n
\n
\n
\n The first Robocopy command above will copy data and security for files that have been updated, and the second Robocopy command will refresh file security for all files, without copying any file data.\n
\n
\n If using a Resource Kit version of Robocopy, and wanting to keep security synced between two trees where the data is fairly static, but security is updated now and then. In fact, the “Copying NTFS Security Information” section of Robocopy.doc (from the Resource Kits) states:\n
\n
\n “To refresh security information for existing destination files and directories without copying file data, use the\n \n /IS\n \n switch together with the\n \n /COPY\n \n switch without the\n \n D\n \n flag. For example\n \n /IS\n \n \n /COPY:SOU\n \n would refresh all security information for all selected files, without copying any file data.”\n
\n
\n Things have moved on a bit in the past 11 years, security-wise, so I changed the way things work in this area slightly for the version of Robocopy that ended up in Vista, in that if you specify /SECFIX on the command line, Robocopy\n \n will\n \n copy security for skipped files that exist in both the source and the target trees.\n
\n
\n So, to maintain two trees in sync, including their security, using Vista’s Robocopy, you can use the following as your regular Robocopy command:\n
\n
\n \n >\n \n \n ROBOCOPY\n \n \n <source> <target> /MIR /SEC /SECFIX\n \n
\n
\n /MIR will replicate data and security (as /SEC is specified) for changed files, and /SECFIX will update just the security for unchanged files. Add /V to the command line if you want to see which files are having their security “fixed” without having their data copied.\n
\n
\n

\n \n Kevin Allen\n \n

\n \n","body@stringLength":"4071","rawBody":"\n \n \n First published on TECHNET on Jul 31, 2008\n \n
\n Some customers pointed out what they believe to be a bug in Robocopy.\n
\n
\n The situation is: suppose that you copy your files using Robocopy in Windows Server 2003 or XP. Then, file or folder permissions (ACLs) are changed wither on source or destination. You want to use the /MIR switch to mirror the permissions:\n
\n
\n \n > ROBOCOPY source destination /MIR  /SEC\n \n
\n
\n Robocopy fails to mirror file permissions – but works for folder permissions.\n
\n
\n This behaviour is by design. Robocopy focuses on copying just files that have changed (in size or modified date, by default). If a file looks like it has changed, Robocopy copies its data and, if you specified copying security as well, copies NTFS ACL from source to target after copying the data. If a file looks like it has NOT changed, Robocopy by default skips it, and copies nothing for the file, not even its security info.\n
\n
\n When I wrote the “security copy” part of Robocopy on 22 May 1997, I chose to do this for performance reasons, to keep Robocopy times for large trees down. This was an adequate implementation for most peoples’ needs at the time. Also, another reason I chose to do things the way I did, is that setting security on directories is sufficient for most people. Setting security on a file-by-file basis is a more granular approach, for sure, but incurs a larger maintenance overhead, perhaps too much for many users.\n
\n
\n Therefore, the solution listed as a workaround posted by\n \n Martin Zugec (MVP)\n \n is precisely what needs to be done in this situation, and this behaviour is expected:\n
\n
\n \n > ROBOCOPY /Mir <Source> <Target>\n
\n > ROBOCOPY /E /Copy:S /IS /IT <Source> <Target>\n
\n
\n
\n The first Robocopy command above will copy data and security for files that have been updated, and the second Robocopy command will refresh file security for all files, without copying any file data.\n
\n
\n If using a Resource Kit version of Robocopy, and wanting to keep security synced between two trees where the data is fairly static, but security is updated now and then. In fact, the “Copying NTFS Security Information” section of Robocopy.doc (from the Resource Kits) states:\n
\n
\n “To refresh security information for existing destination files and directories without copying file data, use the\n \n /IS\n \n switch together with the\n \n /COPY\n \n switch without the\n \n D\n \n flag. For example\n \n /IS\n \n \n /COPY:SOU\n \n would refresh all security information for all selected files, without copying any file data.”\n
\n
\n Things have moved on a bit in the past 11 years, security-wise, so I changed the way things work in this area slightly for the version of Robocopy that ended up in Vista, in that if you specify /SECFIX on the command line, Robocopy\n \n will\n \n copy security for skipped files that exist in both the source and the target trees.\n
\n
\n So, to maintain two trees in sync, including their security, using Vista’s Robocopy, you can use the following as your regular Robocopy command:\n
\n
\n \n >\n \n \n ROBOCOPY\n \n \n <source> <target> /MIR /SEC /SECFIX\n \n
\n
\n /MIR will replicate data and security (as /SEC is specified) for changed files, and /SECFIX will update just the security for unchanged files. Add /V to the command line if you want to see which files are having their security “fixed” without having their data copied.\n
\n
\n

\n \n Kevin Allen\n \n

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RussellProfitt if this is a non physical machine, I would recommend the following. dismount the volume in VMware / Hyper-V VM. mount it to the new server (core, yes your file server should use server core for various reasons, one is to prevent local acess and permission errors when opening folders due UAC is not supported in Windows Explorer locally).

If it is physical I can recommend to use Gurusquad GSCopy Enterprise, at a low cost is about 40% faster than robocopy same robust, better logging and EVERYTHING you might need.

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I am moving all files from the current file server (2012) to a new file server (2019).

 

I need to not only move the files but also the permissions for files and folders along with the copy.

 

I have used Robocopy before but not in the manner where I need to move permissions.

 

Can someone help me with the script necessary to do such? 

 

Thanks

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The info in this link should help for copying with preserving permissions 

[SOLVED] ROBOCOPY file/folder permissions issue - PowerShell (spiceworks.com)

and also you can use alternatives to Robocopy which can straightforwardly do this job like CopyRight2, Gs Richcopy360, and Sharegate 

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I always use this article: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/robocopy

I believe all details which you need can be found there. 

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Hello

/MIR

What other switches can be added to the /MIR so ONLY updated or new files will be copied to the destination without remove old files/directories from the destination?

 

Thanks

 

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