RC1 Availability Update


OK, so I’ve been getting RC1-related questions a lot, both via blog comments and directly over email: Will Microsoft open testing sign-ups again when RC1 is released?


Yes.


Will the Customer Preview Program be available for those who missed out on Beta 2 to sign up and get RC1?


Yes.


If I participated in Beta 2 by downloading a PID and the build, will I be able to participate in RC1 automatically?


Yes.


I know you’re excited.  So am I — and I’m using a newer build (5505) !  More news when it’s available.


Comments (38)

  1. Anonymous says:

    So how would you like to get your hands on a more recent build of Windows Vista?  If you’re still…

  2. Anonymous says:

    I got quite a few questions on Vista and Office 2007 triggered by my posts on Bootcamp. I’m personally…

  3. Anonymous says:

    Microsoft avait dit que cette version (la RC1) serait uniquement pour les utilisateurs ayant téléchargé…

  4. Anonymous says:

    Vista Release Candidate 1 is coming. No word how soon, but it will be open to new testers.
    More Vista coupon buzz:
    Unusual motherboard sales patterns support the idea, according to a Friday report by investment bank Goldman Sachs. The company cited

  5. Anonymous says:

    According to Nick White at the Windows Vista team blog(http://blogs.technet.com/windowsvista/archive/2006…),…

  6. Anonymous says:

    On apprend sur le blog de l’équipe Vista que la RC1 sera disponible au public et automatiquement pour…

  7. Anonymous says:

    Back when Windows XP was the long-delayed operating system we were all waiting for, Microsoft set up a program that allowed PC makers to offer free XP upgrade coupons. Windows users remember that fondly, and it was smart marketing. It…

  8. compugab says:

    Is the build number has a particular significance or is it juste a kind of water mark. Maybe a post on build number should be in order 😀

  9. nwhite says:

    compugab:  Youre right, it’s really only significant as a watermark and in relation to Beta 2, which was build 5384.

  10. Raiker says:

    Will RC1 be first available for technical beta testers and msdn, and later for CPP, or simultaneously?

  11. hklm says:

    ***Vista Must Have 6 More Months–Someone Needs to Tutor Steve Sinofsky on How Windows Should Work and Nick White’s Launch Team Should be Launching 6 months later than January****

    Let’s discuss what’s essential and vital to Vista  that Nick White and Paul Donnelly have not discussed to date.

    **Reopening CPP* (aka Sales)

    Of course they will reopen it.  What is comical and disingenuous is why they would ever have closed it.  It’s not as if the Redmond campus  is out of servers and can’t afford it.  The only reason it was closed was to tease the public and whet their whistles and ala-Apple to try to build a sales mystique.

    Cutting off public downloads was an extension of priming the sales tool with a head fake. There was no reason at all to do so.  MSFT has the servers—but it was an imitation Apple move to build cachet and curiosity and to create desire to buy it.  You have created a black market on Ebay as well forVista Beta DVDs at  ridiculous prices by closing the downloads.  At no loss to MSFT you could have kept them open until RC1 goes CPP, and avoided the hundreds of posts for people who forgot their keys or get a corrupt ISO error in Vista who are complaining en mass on your public newsgroups.

    MSFT must  back off the ship Date 5-6 Months Nick, or  they will embarrass Jim Allchin and badly dilute Vista, who has probably contributed as much as anyone to the current Windows OS and server programs,  will be embarrassed in his last at bat and MSFT will lose a significant amount of  enterprise migrations and  individual retail sales. OEM sales increased last quarter by 20% and OEM sales decreased.

    I know Ballmer said this cryptically at the financial analyst meeting in late July.  It had all the detail of an enigma enshrouded in a mystery.

    Ballmer Analyzes Microsoft’s ‘One Big’ Vista Mistake

    http://www.crn.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191600739

    "We made an upfront decision that was, I’ll say, incredibly strategic and brilliant and wise — and was not implementable," Ballmer said. "We tried to incubate too many new innovations and integrate them simultaneously, as opposed to letting them bake and then integrating them, which is essentially where we wound up."

    Can you  explain and elaborate to your customers what this mistake is (I believe it was a broad agenda that developers found hard to implement concomitantly), but a lot of people would like to understand what Steve Ballmer meant.  It would be a great MSDN Channel 9 topic for an interview, and would give your customers insight into how Windows is projected and envisioned and the process towards implementing that vision..

    Right now the Vista team  developers must be going nuts there as they see principle after principle compromised by panicky PMs and Windows Platform VPs who just want something out and slapped into a box as the code is not debugged, and major features are not made to work.  I think I know now what people mean when they widely write that “Sinofsky made the trains run on time when he ran Office.”  He also left a lot of good features on the cutting room floor every version of Office he presided over,  because MSFT and Sinofsky  believed Office (the cash cow) would be less palatable and less marketable unless it was “dumbed down” for the masses.

    ***MSFT Restricts Information on Bugs to the Public, and they Fail to Provide Adequate Information on Vista to anyone—the public unwashed or even the TAP tester because the technical writers on teams have failed to do their jobs.

    You refuse to give the public access to bugs in any decent way on Connect  (despite the fact that you have plenty of SQL, Cluster, Virtual R2 servers and Paul Donnelly has bugs served up to him, sliced, and diced 100 ways to Christmas). To do so would reveal in vivid detail what has been fixed, what won’t be fixed, what might be fixed, and what has been deferred when to attempt fixing.

    Typical comments on your public Vista newsgroup:

    8/8/06:

    #1

    “Have raised lots of bugs, and get closure and/or feedback reports most  days regarding vista bug reports I have submitted, however, I am not on  Connect Vista, so cannot view or the reqested followup comments, because I  got my Vista via MSDN CTP.  If someone can help from MS, I would much  

    apprciate it.”

    #2

    “I have the same problem and after receiving a reply to an error report and not being able to view the "fix" on Connect I send an error report to Connect and as a reply received a statement that says this will be fixed in

    the future………..

    Please stand by”

    “If you have the feedback ID numbers I can try to get you the information you

    need.

    #3

    From one of the MSFT MVPs who is by definition on the TBT and trying to help solve the Connect blind alley with bug reporting:

    “Several of us have tried that.  Good luck, but I think you will get an error.  One problem is that almost none of the bugs are posted public and there is no way to change it after it has been filed.”

    Several messages are that MSFT is contemplating the problem when people email the near worthless so-called  "Connect Help."  This is as thoroughly disingenuous as it is contemptuous of your customers.  The bugs and their contexts are on many computers  and there is no reason not to organize the categories and make them and their fix or lack of fix context public.

    There is also this very disappointing aphorism about Windows Operating Systems that has held up in the last three of them, including that 16 bit-32  bit horror show that is now the butt of jokes at some of the live MSFT events , the copiously memoryleaking and character building ME.  No subsequent hotfix or service pack, or any kind of update or in the case of ME MSKBs and regedits has ever corrected significant architectural and functional defects in the OS.  Essentially what you see will be what you get when Vista RTMs and it could be Windows ME Redux  or as some people have called it Windows Apathy, “foggy, tentative, and in disarray” rather than “Clear, Confident and Connected.”  It would be very easy to detail this, but you know your way around Vista on the surface of the UI and under the hood,  and you see it on your box.

    MSFT has chosen to *deliberately cut off educational opportunities* in Vista during the long foreplay to RTM.

    Instead of seizing the opportunity to further education and improving learning curves for your customers on the features, and “how tos” of Vista, MSFT closes off  Live Meetings on Vista held from 1-3 times per week that go into detail, and closes off nearly every frequent TBT Chat on Vista.

    There are a few Technet Live Meetings, but there is no reason  to hide the others from public view.   Bloggers and Vista site keepers  were free to post chats on their sites, but this came to an abrupt halt in June.   Why would be a great question.   Live Meetings on Vista features have deliberately not been archived for the public to become educated  This is a real waste of time.  I have no idea if you can access the number of them downloaded from Connect, but it is probably relatively small and the numbers that attend those chats is not large in terms of 2+ million CPP participants and a large additional number of the public that would like to learn Vista’s features. MSFT has deliberately forclosed on education of the public in respect to vista.  Nothing remotely proprietary for MSFT is presented at those chats and Live Meetings. Take a look at them Nick.

    Instead of furthering education on the features of Vista, MSFT closes off most of the Live Meetings on Vista, and closes off nearly every frequent TBT Chat on Vista.  Bloggers and Vista site keepers  were free to post chats on their sites, but this came to an abrupt halt in June.  Live Meetings on Vista features have deliberately not been archived for the public to become eduated. MSFT has deliberately forclosed on education of the public in respect to vista.  Nothing remotely propitiary for MSFT is presented at those chats and Live Meetings. Take a look at them Nick.

    There is absolutely no reason that those teaching opportunities should be closed to the public.  It runs counter to the culture of the Gates Foundation that promotes education and donates computers and studies educational mechanisms.

    Although there is a large budget for technical writers on Beta teams, none of them are producing significant in depth information on key components of Vista that are being made publicly available on MSFT sites.

    There is also an unprecedented budget for the promotion of Vista toward RTM.  $100 million for Partner resources, and $4-500 million in advertising to Wagner-Edstrom, McCann Ericson Worldwide, and other ad shops.  How about a fraction of that to get information out that is quality and detailed on major Vista components like System File Protection, System Restore, and the Windows Repair Environment?  You can’t find detailed information on those now Nick, and I’m not talking about the Help site, and you know I’m not talking about the very superficial cheer-leading Product Guide that is aimed towards people who are complete novices.

    There is an exponentially growing ground swell of MSFT MVPs and widely read knowledgable bloggers, users and frequent news group helpers exhorting MSFT to give Vista another 6 months before RTM.  They should heed this for the sake of quality in Vista.  There has never been a service pack in Windows since they began in Win 2K that significantly fixed functionality or added many features.  They have all been predominantly security driven.

    Your own former chief evangelist and MSDN  9 blogger Robert Scoble, who has also been a VB MVP and filmed scores of indepth interviews with Vista team members, (arguably by far your best known ever blogger on the planet and the only one written up by multiple major media outlets) has written at

    http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/mclaws-is-right-on-windows-vista-ship-date/

    and

    http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/page/2/

    and

    Looking at Vista

    http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/looking-at-vista/

    "I’ve been on the betas of every Windows OS since Windows 3.1 and Vista is starting to feel good, but it doesn’t feel good enough to release to the factory in October. It feels like it needs a good six more months than that, which would mean a mid-year release next year."

    Paul Thurott has written at

    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ready.asp

    We might call Windows Vista a "train wreck" for simplicity’s sake…Is Windows Vista ready?

    No. God, no. Today’s Windows Vista builds are a study in frustration, and trust me, I use the darn thing day in and day out, and I’ve seen what happens when you subject yourself to it wholeheartedly."

    Ed Bott has sold well over 900,000 copies of MSFT Press’ "Windows Vista Inside Out" already.  His Inside Out books are read by thousands of MSFT employees to learn about parts of the operating system they are less familiar with.

    Ed Bott has agreed with Robert McLaws of Longhorn Blogs that you should hold Vista to fix its systemically broken components.  Bott writes in his blog:

    July 31, 2006 – 4:44 pm

    Robert’s right: Windows Vista needs more time

    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=1414

    Vista Needs More Time: The Entry I Didn’t Want To Write

    http://www.longhornblogs.com/robert/archive/2006/07/31/Windows_Vista_Needs_a_Beta_3.aspx

    “Time For a Sanity Check” by Robert McLaws Longhorn Blogs

    Microsoft has been pushing it’s developers too hard to meet this deadline, and Vista is too complicated to allow it to be reached. Many people will twist my words and construe Vista’s complexity as a bad thing; it’s not, just the nature of software development. But that means that new realities have to be addressed in new ways. So I have a proposal for solving this problem and getting Vista out the door in the first quarter, without sacrificing product quality to the God of Everyone Else’s Expectations:

    "Step 1: Push the launch back 4-6 weeks and launch at the end of February. Yeah, you’re going to get A LOT of flack for it. The stock price will probably drop a percent or two. The Slashdotters will go apeshit. But trust me, your long-term issues will be far worse than your short-term ones if the product is not up to par out of the gate."

    "Robert McLaws says Microsoft needs to delay Windows Vista. I agree with about 90% of what he says:

    McLaws wrote:

    "I’ve been defending Microsoft’s ship schedule for Windows Vista for quite some time. Up to this point, I’ve been confident that Vista would be at the quality level it needs to be by RC1 to make the launch fantastic. Having tested several builds between Beta 2 and today, I hate to say that I no longer feel that way."

    The author of the Windows Inside Out Books (mine on XP is 1435 pages and I think that MSFT press is connected to the same MSFT that pays you):

    "There’s some truly great stuff in Windows Vista, but current builds are not at the quality level they need to be at for a release candidate to appear in the next few weeks. If management insists on hitting an arbitrary January ship date, the results will be disappointing at best, and potentially nightmarish.

    Jim, [Allchin] are you listening"

    HKLM

  12. Banners says:

    Nick, it looks like the RSS feed isnt updating – anyone else getting this issue or is it another IE7/OL2007 RSS bug!!

  13. hklm says:

    Correction:  OEM sales increased 18 % and retail sales decreased nearly 19% for MSFT In fiscal 2006–I rounded off to 20 above and I typed OEM twice when retail should have been substituted for the second figure.  Below is the exact info:

    Prepared Remarks MSFT

    Full Transcript of Microsoft’s F1Q06 Conference Call — Prepared Remarks (MSFT)

    Executives:

    Colleen Healy, Senior Director, IR

    Chris Liddell, CFO

    Scott Di Valerio, Corporate VP, Finance and Administration, Chief Accounting Officer

    http://software.seekingalpha.com/article/4169

    "Now, let’s move onto a discussion of revenue by business segment. Client revenue grew 7% on the strength of PC unit growth of 15% to 17%. Since roughly 80% of Client sales are earned through the OEM channel, it is important to capture the market unit growth. Our OEM license units growth of 18% is a good indicator that we were successful. The OEM license growth of 18% translated into client OEM revenue growth of 13%, primarily due to the combined impact of two factors, both of which negatively impacted our OEM pricing mix first, the shift in channel mix toward larger OEMs with volume pricing and second, the relative strength of the consumer segment in the PC market…"

    During the quarter, commercial and retail licensing of Windows operating systems declined by 19%, as customers choose to upgrade their PC operating systems through the OEM channel when they replace their PCs versus the purchase of a volume licensing agreement. I should also remind you that we had a relatively strong retail sales in the first quarter last year, in conjunction with the release of Windows XP SP2, which negatively impacted the year-over-year growth comparisons.

    This is even a more compelling reason MSFTshould not abandon their huge OEM pre-install market customers (near 500 million for XP is the best figure I can arrive at)  Nick has much greater access to those figures which are difficult to get).

    I’m targeting the eggregious point that MSFT is loath to discuss–that one of their major market of customers for the Windows Operating systems–the one that includes the desktop and small business  users who are likely to use Flight Simulator for pleasuer (I’m not including the Navy or any country’s defense force that uses this software for training).

    These people are left high and dry when they have no Boot XP situations and in the near future no Boot Vista situations because the major Recovery mechanisms with any significant efficacy after F8 options have been exhausted properly( Safe Modes and LKG) are in XP a Repair Install (much more efficient and considerably faster than the erratic Recovery Console when partitions haven’t been systemically destroyed or there is not a Linux Boot Loader blocking repair install setup or Win RE’s components in Vista).

    J. Scott Di Valerio is corporate vice president of the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) Division at Microsoft Corp and listed in this conference transcript also as Corporate VP, Finance and Administration, Chief Accounting Officer

    He is in large part responisble for the fact that OEM preinstalled users of XP and now Vista will be left high and dry from access to recovery mechanisms for a no boot XP or Vista.

    J Scott Di Valerio

    Divisional Vice President at

    Microsoft Corporation

    Redmond, Washington

    http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromMktGuideIdPersonTearsheet.jhtml?passedMktGuideId=1004386

    The challenge for Nick and his collegues (any of them on Vista teams is to put 20 in a room; have no boot Vistas of various stripes and no boot XPs configured on the boxes and have the participants try to repair the boxes for XP and Vista.  10 will have what MSFT and any 10 of the 300 "OEM named partners" the big guys,  have partnered to ship (Recovery Discs and partitions) and 10 will have retail CDs for XP and DVDs for Vista.  Compare the success rates of repair of the two groups.  The one with retail MSFT CDs and DVDs will have access to a Repair Install and the full panoply of Win RE from Desmond Lee’s (PM) team and the ones with OEM material will not.  

    Currently unfortunately, Win RE is not near as successful percentage wise in Vista as a Repair Install has been (close to 100%–rarely needs to be repeated) on 1000 tries.

    There has been no definitive comprehensive article or White Paper on Win RE and the differential use of its components (Startup Repair Tool, etc.) written and posted on MSFT’s site 14 months after the Beta Vista began.

    HKLM

  14. hklm says:

    Smart marketing and particular integrity in marketing that is now absent at MSFT for the products Windows XP and Windows Vista is for Scott Di Valerio, Corporate Vice President, OEM Division to come clean with MSFT’s large customer base for OEM preinstalled
    Windows Vista Boxes and admit that since the XP launch on October 25, 2001 and the RTM of XP on August 24, 2001

    An Inside Look at the Months-long Process of Getting Windows XP Ready for Release to Manufacturing

    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/aug01/08-24windowsxprtm.mspx

    The creative spirit of Jim Allchin that has been crafted during his 16 years at MSFT since 1990 has been dishonored and decimated and desecrated by MSFT because they are cutting off all of the OEM preinstalled purchasers from the code needed for Windows XP
    to do a repair install.  

    We’re talking more people than can fit in Nick White’s kitchen and living room–we’re talking nearly 500 million OEM  pre-installed desktops in Windows XP (MSFT hides this number) and a circulated MSFT slide entitled "The Windows Vista Opportunity"  claiming
    that "industry forecasts 475 million OEM PCs in 24 months" and "an upgradable installed base of approximately 200 million PCs."

    ***That’s a whole lot of people to screw in one operating system cycle Mr. Nick. That’s a whole lot of people who have value stripped from their expensive and often sacrifice inducing OEM purchases., that bring in significant revenue for you all and significant
    revenue for  your OEM Platinum Partners and 300 Name OEM  Partners.***

    There is a point crucial to make here.  Not everyone is able to pick up the phone like an affluent MSFT evangelist and tell HP to send them a box with 4GB of the most cutting edge high quality RAM, 4GHZ of processor, and to prime that box with an Intel Core
    2 Duo processor. Many of these customers work hard and struggle to put thousands of dollars or hundreds of dollars they pour into their OEM boxes.

    MSFT increased OEM sales 19% during the last fiscal quarter in 2006. "Retail licensing of Windows operating systems declined by 19%, as customers choose to upgrade their PC operating systems through the OEM channel when they replace their PCs versus the purchase
    of a volume licensing agreement… Our OEM license units growth of 18% is a good indicator that we were successful. The OEM license growth of 18% translated into client OEM revenue growth of 13%."  

    Here’s a very big bottom line when it’s linked to customers not being able to recover the XP and Vista operating systems from OEM material from the mouth of Scott Di Valerio, Corporate OEM and Corporate Financial VP–MSFT has benighted him with both titles
    according to this conference and their current Press Pass Executive Profile:

    "Since roughly 80% of Client sales are earned through the OEM channel, it is important to capture the market unit growth."

    http://software.seekingalpha.com/article/4169

    ***I wouldn’t be proud of that at all.***  It shows complete disregard for the largest customer base of Vista and XP that MSFT continues to enjoy as it increases.  Again these customers pay hundreds or in many cases thousands of dollars for a box.  If I pay
    that kind of money, I’m going to tell the OEM sales person or much higher up "Look–you either furnish me a retail MSFT Vista DVD or XP CD or I know enough about hardware to spell whatever you have at whatever price you have or build it myself so I’ll keep
    going until I find someone with integrity enough who cares about my ability to recover from a no boot Vista or a no boot XP.

    MSFT also failed to point out in 6-7 years including the XP Beta of producing MSFT Knowledge Base articles that a significant cause of blue screens (and the Vista Device team is oblivious to this).  I have a quote from Richard Dominguez on a Vista Device chat
    ( responsible for all incoming bugs that deal with Audio/Storage/Input devices/biometrics) flatly stated that 80% of no boot crashes are due to  faulty device drivers.  That’s a distortion of reality.  Deadlock Detection and inspection of software Antivirus
    program drivers causes a significant degree of no boot blue screen stop error crashes in XP and Vista.

    The disingenuous name "recovery discs" and disingenuous names like "PC restore partitions" that your huge Platinum Partner Dell uses, ought to be banned and stopped and MSFT absolutely has their legal staff draw up this contract under the watchful eye of Mr.
    Di Valerio, who is an accountant and not a software engineer steeped in the Windows Operating System.

    This policy reflects on everyone including Jim Allchin, the platform VPs for Windows, (hard to keep track of because they switch from month to month), certainly now Steve Sinofsky who built his Windows experience while curtailing features from Office, and Nicholas
    White and all of the thousands of members of Beta teams at Redmond, TechNet Presenters, MSDN presenters, all evangelists and TS2 presenters.

    Nicholas White remains silent on the prodigious problem of the disconnect between MSFT XP and now Vista customers not being able to repair no boot XP and Vista with OEM media or OEM partitions.  This also reflects a terrible disparity in the rules for the hard
    working OEM system builders (the little guys) and the so-called 300 named OEM partners that are prominently catalogued on Mr. Di Valerio’s pcs.  The named partners have no rules to conform to as to recovery media; but the OEM system builders who came under
    Mr. Di Valerio’s purview July1, 2006  have to provide genuine Windows XP and Vista media so that their customers have a valid way to do a Repair Install of XP or accessing the Windows Recovery Environment in Vista.   An XP repair install is successful nearly
    100% of the time if partitions aren’t systemically destroyed and there is not a multi boot Lilo or Grub boot loader in the way of reaching XP setup for a repair install.

    This is not at all to say that the promising Linux Operating systems can’t be multibooted with Windows hosted by the promising widely accepted Linux servers that give the Longhorn servers a run for their money in enterprises worldwide with XP or Vista.

    It is simply to point out they can prevent a repair install in XP.

    Unfortunately using Startup Repair that is a component of Win RE developed by Desmond Lee’s (PM) team at Redmond has a precipitously lower percent of success in Vista than a repair install for XP that hovers at 100% after Windows Advanced Options (all safe
    modes for system restore and Last Known Good Configuration are exhausted).

    Dell is the company who loves MSFT so much for stimulating their computer sales by rushing Vista to market instead of giving it the 6 months that MVPs are now urging in large numbers as well as major Vista MSFT press book authors that  they sold Google Desktop
    Real Estate for MSFT Vista boxes in an auction, and for the Google Search engine.

    Dell embraces Google

    http://www.cnet.com.au/desktops/pcs/0,39029439,40063260,00.htm

    The Google Search Engine now clearly dominates the search engine market despite the hiring of Dr. Gary Flake and Ray Ozzie’s frequent memos on Web 2.0

    A lot of Mr. Gates’ nights thinking about the competition is focused on Google as he turns his thoughts to working on his very large medical learning curve as he helps advance the admirable work of the Gates Foundation which is at the opposite end of spectrum.
     

    Bill and Melinda Gates desperately want to develop a Vaccine to prevent HIV and have succeeded in preventing diseases that the medical establishment failed to prevent until that happened. They will succeed, but it will take years.  The important point is that
    they are bringing the resources and organization to unite efforts to move this forward and make it happen.  They have recently formed a a major effort to bring together researchers from around the world with a collaborative new business model.  On July 19,
    the foundation announced 16 grants totaling $287 million over five years to set up an international network of HIV vaccine scientists. A third of the money — five of the grants — will pay for central laboratories and data analysis facilities to test researchers’
    findings.  Nicholas Hellman, acting Director of the Gates’ Foundation  HIV, TB, and Reproductive Health program explained this will help ID Vaccine research approaches with the most promising clinical efficacy.

    However, when it comes to Windows Recovery and getting a sick Windows on its feet, for customers instead of patients,  Mr. Gates is a failure with respect to his huge base of OEM customers—and the RX for them is dead on arrival in the XP and Vista recovery
    rooms.

    A broken operating Windows Operating System (XP or Vista) does not get to the recovery room. The Recovery Console has been a massive failure overall, because most people can’t master it’s very limited command interface outside Windows to use it properly, and
    it doesn’t work most of the time, even when they do.

    MSFT’s attitude toward this criticism has been extremely vengeful and totalitarian.  They attempt to censor it on their Vista newsgroups by crossing it off when it appears, (although the community personnel’s huge learning curves prevent this from completely
    happening permanently) and they also attempt to cut people off from access to MSFT Vista and other  information (Live Meeting Chats and Vista chats) who dare to raise it and block them from their newsgroup servers in retaliation and erase their messages both
    downloaded and posted from servers.

    I welcome Nicholas White who is a member of the Vista Launch team who is pushing a broken Windows Vista out the door in January instead of giving it the 6 additional months for PMS to allow Developers to fix much that is broken to take a challenge I think he
    will refuse to either comment on or take.

    I would love to go one on one with Nicholas or anyone he wants to bring from the Vista setup teams, the Win RE team, the System Restore team the core file services teams, the Transactional NTFS teams, any of your evangelists from any software division, Donnelly,
    Allchin, Gates, Ballmer or any one from MSFT Research or virtually any employee in this 70,000 person megalith.  Give me a box with genuine retail media either XP or Vista and give them an identical box with OEM materials representative of a significant number
    of OEM manufacturers shipped media or recovery or PC restore type partitions.

    We’ll come up with ways to break XP and Vista so that they don’t boot.  I can think of many.  These can include taking key files out of the boot strap mechanisms of both OS’s like NTLDR and Ntdetect.com and let’s see which one of us is successful in getting
    back XP and Vista.

    Let me know Nick when you and your home boys and girls are ready.  So far I haven’t heard anyone take the challenge from MSFT.  If you can’t take the challenge, (and I take your silence to mean you can’t and won’t) and I know you won’t succeed if you do, then
    give your OEM customer base an adequate means to recover their OS.  You all are responsible equally with the OEMs. It doesn’t fly to tell people "Oh we don’t know what the OEM’s do."  You absolutely know and your VP Legal and General Counsels Brad Smith and
    his associate Nancy Anderson have personnel to draw up those contracts.

    It  is also very disappointing considering the talent level of some of your better know MVPs and authors of major books on Windows operating systems including Vista, that you all are silent when people urge you to take 6 more months  out from January into 2007
    before you RTM Vista because the results could be horrendous at the worst and very disappointing at  best to quote Ed Bott.  Mr. Bott is pushing a million pre-sales copies of his much awaited MSFT Press  Windows Vista Inside Out.

    HKLM

  15. Arylinth says:

    How will beta 2 testers be notified of RC-1?  Will Vista let me know, or will an email be sent to (my now dead) email address from when I signed up?

  16. nwhite says:

    hey Arylinth: Keep an eye on the blog for the answer to your question.

  17. compact-mac says:

    Hey, I hope Vista goes for the best.

    Im usin 5384 and cant wait for RC1!

    Some problems I have had:

    – My HP PSC printer driver wont install

    – Free Download Manager dont work properly

    Ta-ta!

  18. TechTimU says:

    Nick I have been running Vista Beta 2 quite successfully since its original release, and as many, I too am very excited about the upcoming RC1 Release. I’d would love to continue my Vista Experience. Look forward to it. When you have a set release date please let me know.

  19. jetkat says:

    Where wouls be the best place to see the RC1 announcement to join and download?