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Today’s episode is part 2 of my chat with Brad Strock, the CIO of PayPal.

Brad and I talk about why de-stigmatizing failure is such a valuable approach to IT innovation, as well as our first jobs (both of us started out as mechanical  engineers), and writing code on punchcards.

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In the next episode, we begin to wrap up Season 3 with the first of two outtakes episodes – it’s all the best stuff that couldn’t quite fit into the previous episodes.

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